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QRimson development is back on, riskier than ever
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frumpyjones
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow.

My disappointment is way high now. We're coming up on mid February and still not even a peep.

I still dunno how people can defend Jimmi globe-trotting on the money he asked us to give him so he could develop the new game.

Question for the room (Vacant as it has become): How many of you are one-time pay for lifers? And how many are still paying subscribers, and is there anyone who is planning on renewing this time round, given the present (non) state-of-affairs?
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Rhox
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm part of the Lifetime Membership generation of this game. Therefore I will probably be playing Quadradius forever.
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Polymorph
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have at least 4 years to my name.
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cinder
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

frumpyjones wrote:
Wow.

My disappointment is way high now. We're coming up on mid February and still not even a peep.

I still dunno how people can defend Jimmi globe-trotting on the money he asked us to give him so he could develop the new game.

Question for the room (Vacant as it has become): How many of you are one-time pay for lifers? And how many are still paying subscribers, and is there anyone who is planning on renewing this time round, given the present (non) state-of-affairs?


1. You wrote: My disappointment is way high now.
So get a life.

2. You: I still dunno how people can defend Jimmi blah blah blah
Who is defending him? all I see is you complaining.

I will defend the game however, it is a good one - whatever is going on with QRimson.

3. You: Vacant as it has become.
How is it vacant - who are you talking to then? Duh?
The lobby always has players. People are posting here too. Same as it ever was.

Why not renew? I like the game. I will pay to play a good game. Just forget about QRimson and either play or leave. Why keep trying to find people to grumble with?

Sorry nothing personal - its just too negative, and wrong also. Disapointed - so get over it.

Jimmi acted in good faith - he was never in a contract with you.

Lastly:
"I still dunno how people can defend Jimmi globe-trotting on the money he asked us to give him so he could develop the new game."

Maybe he worked on the money you gave him, and lived on it while programming Qrimson to the level it is now. So basically you're saying he should spend no money ever until he finishes QR. So any money he later is given or earns at a job he can't use ever or enjoy because it will bother you. WTF?

Stop griping man. Sorry that you and QR may not be the center of Jimmi's life right now.
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bizpimp
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



QÜAD 4 LiFE



'member NPT yooz guyz
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J
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or maybe Frumpy don't like the flav of the Kool-Aid.
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OncoByte
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bizpimp wrote:

QÜAD 4 LiFE



'member NPT yooz guyz

I don't partake, but that was creative. Props!

Ganjaradius - the dope version of QR

Move Again - doesn't actually give you another turn. It just pauses the game to let you reflect of the vastness of the universe

Scavenger - doesn't give you new powers. Only satisfies the munchies, temporarily.

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mattmonyo
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="cinder"]
frumpyjones wrote:
Lastly:
"I still dunno how people can defend Jimmi globe-trotting on the money he asked us to give him so he could develop the new game."

Maybe he worked on the money you gave him, and lived on it while programming Qrimson to the level it is now. So basically you're saying he should spend no money ever until he finishes QR. So any money he later is given or earns at a job he can't use ever or enjoy because it will bother you. WTF?


No, no, Frumpy has a point here. When you donate money to Jimmi, your intent isn't to just give him money, it's to give him money in a way that promotes the making of Qrimson. If he just takes the donations and does whatever he wants with them, that is something to get pissed off about.

How would you feel if you donated money to some charity and they blew it away to something other than the cause you thought you were donating to?
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Rhox
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have no clue what Jimmi is spending the money on. You don't know him personally so assuming he's blowing it all on hookers and drugs just because Qrimson isn't finished is dumb. Jimmi doesn't have to make Qrimson. He's got a perfectly good game already. He has probably hit a wall in the creative process, maybe he has lost the spark that was originally there. It happens. Don't insult the man.
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This is a luck containing game. We like that. The randomness means that you have a tremendous variety of options and almost every game you play is different than the last. The same strategy doesn't work every time. Sometimes, you will lose entirely because of bad luck. Play another "hand" of QR and get over it.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rhox wrote:
We have no clue what Jimmi is spending the money on. You don't know him personally so assuming he's blowing it all on hookers and drugs just because Qrimson isn't finished is dumb. Jimmi doesn't have to make Qrimson. He's got a perfectly good game already. He has probably hit a wall in the creative process, maybe he has lost the spark that was originally there. It happens. Don't insult the man.

Fact is, most of us more active members are lifer-freeloaders. Hosting the game costs something and I suspect that game subscriptions barely cover it.

I can understand if you donated money and feel cheated by not having a new product in place, but I don't think the Jimmi misrepresented what he was trying to do, intentionally or otherwise. If you do feel bad about it, vent to Jimmi and cut your losses. you can choose to pay to play the current game - or not.
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cinder
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattmonyo wrote:
frumpyjones wrote:
Lastly:
"I still dunno how people can defend Jimmi globe-trotting on the money he asked us to give him so he could develop the new game."



How would you feel if you donated money to some charity and they blew it away to something other than the cause you thought you were donating to?


Jimmi didn't do that. He got some donations, quit his job (or maybe in reverse order), worked like for six months on Qrimson, got it into a stable playable state, spent hours fixing bugs we reported, and then at the end of the year made the fatal mistake of posting that he was on vacation.

Why Frumpy's post bothers me so much is that he is basically (maybe unintentionally) spreading lies. See, now Mattmonyo believes him. Frumpy whines and complains and makes it seem much worse that the reality.

"I gave you money and now (six months later) you are spending money on a trip. Whaaaah" - Frumpy

Did we donate a year's salary to him? How long can he live on a few thousand dollars when he is working on Qrimson?
It is a stupid argument, that since we gave him money he cannot spend his own money on anything until Qrimson is finished.

I don't mind that you are disappointed, and yes maybe it was wrong for Jimmi to get our hopes up and make it seem like he would take donations and work hard to produce a final product in a few months. But get over it. He did put a lot of work into it - and it's just not finished.
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Rys4k
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jimmi wrote:
Happy 2010. despite the rumors, I did not die. I took on a bunch of freelance to pay some bills, went home for xmas, and I'm now in Japan for 2 weeks. be back in mid jan, possibly with some good QR news.


Why has no one considered the concept that Jimmi might have picked up some freelance work in Japan? It's almost inferred in the sentence.

As well, no one was forced to donate. It's really rather contradictory to the term itself. He worked on QRimson as long and vigilantly as your donations would allow, then had to pick up work to live.

Seems pretty straight forward to me.

In closing, less QQ, more pew pew.

Cheers,
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Polymorph
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm thinking that Jimmi runs on Valve Time. He said he'll be gone for two weeks. So I'd say it's a safe bet to see him in March or April.
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frumpyjones
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're reading too much into my posts, methinks.

How I feel is simple:

1) I bought into the game under false pretenses (According to the "become a member page" at the time there was supposed to be new power Tuesdays, yet that had actually stopped something like half a year before I got there).

2) Jimmi tells us that he's quiting his job and working on QRIMSON full time and needs our money to help, if we can (buy subsriptions and give them to friends...etc). People donate, he works, give us updates for a little bit, then disappears.

3) Little updates to QRimson continue for bit, but no real development and no word from Jimmi except for all the places he's now travelling to (Gaming Conference in San Francisco... heading off to Texas... I'm going to Japan, update in two weeks!)

If Jimmi doesn't want me to speculate then he should get his ass in here. But here's my actual guess:

He's burned out. He has hit a wall, and has no real news to report, He needs people to buy subscriptions to game, but he's done nothing with it for years and now he's tired of the new thing, the money's gone, and he doesn't know (read: have the guts) to come in and tell us, which leads to speculations like this.

There's an old adage in Customer Service that applies here: "The customer can take good news. The customer can take bad news. But a customer can never handle no news."

Not that ANYONE will have any idea what I'm talking about here, but Todd Rundgren did the same thing with The Interocitor. He led subscribers along for over a year on this really cool thing he was developing, and then finally, after many many many people complaining and speculating, and getting no news when promised, he finally came out and said it was dead and promptly everyone moved on.

An finally, I'm a paid subscriber to jimmi's work, I have every right to complain. I'm his audience and his potential customer. He'd do well to listen to me rather than all the free-for-life people who are yessing him.

I like the game. A lot. But it needs to be improved, Jimmi promised improvement and took peoples donations towards it and has nothing to really show almost a year later.

How am I the bad guy? Because I'm noting it? Because I'm not sympathetic to his need to travel the country and the world while the people who donated and subscribed to him scratch their head and wonder WTF?

You may find this next part hard to believe but I want him to succeed. i think the game is fantastic and challenging and frustrating. But he's got to be honest with himself and us.

It's as simple as that.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frumpy, you are violating the "Dont bash Jimmi" rule posted by a moderator some time ago.
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